Gaming: Ragnarok Dupe Wipe Update (6/21/07)
Well, I think now most of you see that the wipe was 100% true. Based from the recent text messages, calls, and YMs, it looks like the wipe was really potent because of the complaints flooding our customer support. There have been mixed reactions so far, with majority being happy because of the fair playing field. I would just like to address some issues before someone blows everything out of proportion yet again. I’d like to thank everyone though who supported this move. Read more about the dupe wipe aftermath after the jump.
First and foremost, if you bought the dupe item and you have evidence that you bought it like screenshots, then please file a ticket through the Level-up Customer Support system. If the trade was legit and fair then it will just take some time before it gets restored. However if the trade was bogus like 10 zenny for 1 SGH, then there is no assurance that we will give you back your 10 zenny. Take note that this will take TIME. I can’t say for sure how long it will take before a case like this gets resolved. A lot of players will be filing bogus claims and we will have to verify those as well.
Secondly, one of the most pressing questions is how do we stop the dupe? We deleted the items but they can easily dupe again. Well the answer is actually simple - we will run the anti-delete script everyday and maybe even 2x a day if there is a pressing need to do so. This is our safeguard while we are waiting for the final fix from Gravity. If you’re going to have a major transaction, I strongly suggest you always keep screenshots just so you have evidence that the trade actually happened. I’m pretty sure the other countries with Ragnarok can now breathe a sigh of relief because we’ve proven that the script exists. If this problem reaches iRO, jRO, or some other country, they can easily get the script and run it through their DB daily.
Lastly, I’d like to thank the guild leaders and players who have been stepping up lately giving Level-up names of duper suspects. The information that you guys give is valuable because it saves us time and it gives us a trail that we can just follow. Sometimes the characters that you give aren’t dupers, but when we check their IP, we find like 10 novice accounts filled with dupes.
Now that this is out of the way, I’ll have the team focus more on the other problems of RO - this includes the character transfer, rebirth bug, neuralizer bug, game time transfer, and of course - the Ragnarok Philippine Championships. I’ll give more updates on those issues as the days go by.
Enjoy the first dupe-free siege tonight - it’s definitely been a while. @_@
June 21st, 2007 at 7:43 pm
futaaaa nmn oh CK at neutral ko nwla taena pati ala kasalanan dinadamay nyo amp tang !na
June 21st, 2007 at 7:48 pm
now the dupe is solved
hot bout the past rollback problem
why the zeny was not part of the rollback?
June 21st, 2007 at 7:49 pm
dami rin nawala sa akin, nagfile na ako ng ticket. sana masolusyonan. thanks sa update.
June 21st, 2007 at 7:58 pm
tangina nyo!! yan lng masasabi ko mga gago.. malay ba nmin kung dupe b talga ung binili nmin o hnd!! mga gago talaga kau tangina oo mga gago, msaya na kau? mga putang ina nyo!
June 21st, 2007 at 8:00 pm
GOOD JOB LUG. PATI MGA GAMIT NA MAMAHALIN NA HINUNT NA BOSS CARDS KUNUKUHA NG SCRIPTS NYO. PATI MGA ARMOR NA GINAWA SA PRONTERA SMITH NA PLUS 8 OR 9 NA MAY LAMAN AYUN NAWALA. ANG DAMI NAG REREKLAMO NA TAO BIGLA NALANG NAWAWALA MGA GAMIT HABANG LARO AT HABANG NAG LALAKAD.
LAHAT BA NG ITEMS NA MAMAHALIN NA 100M UP KUKUNIN NYO?? WAW SABOTAGE TO AH.
18 - Zangetsu says,6-21-2007 at 18:48:46 from 58.69.180.186 ung script nyo ata nyan pag pangalan ng gamit lets say GTB, lahat ata ng GTb kinukuha at nirorollback. kahit galing sa boss mismo. goodluck LUG. players pay hard earned money for this game. if this system continues, u can say goodbye to RO. yun naman ata gusto nyo eh. kasi mukhang mas malakas RF at ibang games, pinopromote nyo pa ang RO2. “marketing strategy?†for the good of the company? damn man.
oh and by the way, mas madami ang nag praise sa inyo pa kasi ung iba di pa na checheck gamit nila. at isa pa, nakakasawa na mag reklamo wala naman nangyayari.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:03 pm
wauks question lng po
kung araw araw nio run ung anti dupe, panu nmn ung maapektuhan n mga nakabile ng dupe items pero in a legit way?
u min palage dn cla mag aapply sa custumer support?
June 21st, 2007 at 8:04 pm
@ wauks
pano kme bbli ng items kung pde pa din cla mgdupe????
ano kya un prang lokohan lng to
wipe nio dupe tpos mkakapagdupe pa cla
bkit nde nio muna unahin ung pagdudupe nila
dapat nde na cla makapagdupe
kalokohan kc ginagwa nio eh???
plss Answer My Question
or kalokohan n lng yan
pno kme bbli ng items kung nkakapagdupe pa cla
plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Answer this
June 21st, 2007 at 8:05 pm
@ Wauk
ask ko lang panu ung na delete na items na binili pa nung la pa merge at matagal na nasamin. wala na screenshots un sigurado kasi unang una matagal na un at de pa uso dupe nun kaso nabura pa dn. Ano po mga pwedeng aksyons gawin para mabalik gamit.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:11 pm
Sige mga mura lang kayo mga DUPERS!!!
lahat ng mali may mga karma yan.
QUIT NA KAYO MGA DUPERS!!! E2 sa inyo ..!..
magdaya na lang kayo in real life!
June 21st, 2007 at 8:13 pm
hindi po kaya makadagdag sa lag ung anti dupe script?
June 21st, 2007 at 8:14 pm
sir Wauks 3 items nawala sa`kin (+1Oi. muff, +1Ocranial buck,Combat Knife) magfile sana me ticket pero SIRA UNG CUSTOMER SUPPORT! T_T please naman po mei screenies me ng items na un na binuy q un legally! pinaghirapan me po eun.. T___T.. bakit po ganun dami po reklamo na tagal na sa kanila ung mga nawala nilang items mga 3yrs or 2 yrs ago pa pero bakit nawala?.. Sure po bang for DUPE ITEMS lang and ndedelete nung script? paano po kaming napakaraming biktima? SANA PO please maibalik nio po ung nawala samen :C
June 21st, 2007 at 8:17 pm
kuya wauks ok lng b kung SS lng ng mga nawalang equips ung isusubmit? salamat po sa reply
June 21st, 2007 at 8:19 pm
woo! finally nakapag file na me ticket nag fatal error kanina.. wah! cguro kc dami nagpafile..
XKV42
yan po saken huhu sana mahelp nio me T______T
June 21st, 2007 at 8:31 pm
PANO YAN KUNG WALA KANG SCREENSHOTS??
KAWAWA NAMAN GUILDMATES KO,
NAWALAN NG GR SAKA PA,
WALANG SCREENSHOTS, EH PANO YUN ??????
ANO MAG EEDIT KAMI ???
PLS. CONCRETE SOLUTIONS N ANSWERS…
June 21st, 2007 at 8:39 pm
aba ok naman pla “If the trade was legit and fair then it will just take some time before it gets restored.”
salamat po! ^_^
June 21st, 2007 at 8:39 pm
@ Sir Wauks
I think ung pang-wipe po ng dupes at indi gumagana ng ayus, kasi madami kami nawawalan ng gamit sa Baldur. Try visiting the reklamadors area in prontera. AKo kasi nawalan ng +7 grin buts lang naman po. Matagal na po sa akin un, Louyang Ep. pa nung na+7 ko ung buts na nakuha ko sa OVB.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:41 pm
hmm… the lack of responses could mean that a lot of people are happy about the dupe wipe.
as for the ones that got hit, take it up with level-up CS… pero you had better be sure that your concerns are real.
nakakahiya lang if you’re just a duper… or a willing dupe victim (MEANING you knew you were buying bootleg merchandise) and get any sympathy from them.
@Wauks: ok yan. just re-check your scripts… you might actually be deleting legit stuff.
June 21st, 2007 at 8:41 pm
LOL.. Hindi pwedeng aasa lang kayo sa script.. Masisira pa rin yung game economy niyan eh.. Paano kung loots or yung mahal kapag ibenta sa npc ang idudupe nila tapos benta agad sa npc??.. Hindi naman matatanggal nung script yung zeny na nakuha sa pagbenta ng dupe items sa npc eh.. Kaya wag niyong isipin na tapos na problema niyo sa dupes..
June 21st, 2007 at 8:49 pm
this is pathetic! so you mean, pede pa rin pala makapasok ang mga dupe items?
how would we know that the items we are buying are dupes or not? then sorry nalang pala kami kung nabili namin e dupe tapos the next day, nawawala?
and so we have to take a screen shoots everytime bibili kami ng gamit?! cool!! isn’t? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
pucha… that means, the issue regarding DUPES isnt solved yet?! sigh sigh sigh… kamusta naman…
hay naku…
June 21st, 2007 at 9:00 pm
pati yun mga lumang item na delete din kung ganun nung una pa pla may dupe na hindi kami nag eenjoy sa dupe free kami nag susuffer ngayun dahil nawawala gamit namin
June 21st, 2007 at 9:14 pm
gudluck to Pro. pay to play na ganyan pa. no security ang mga players. no system LUG. puro marketing, no consistency sa pag ayos ng game itself. sayang pera. and ano compensation? x3 mod? waw. ganda un ah. sus.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:28 pm
@Louie/pRO Player
Just make sure to take screenshots, especially if the transaction is a big one. The dupe process actually involves map crashing, so as soon as that is fixed and we run the script then there shouldn’t be any major problems afterwards. This is a temporary measure while we are waiting for the permanent fix from Gravity.
@Antonio
Yep, I’ve been getting some reports that legit items got wiped as well. So far though all of the reports are bogus because when we checked they were actually dupes.
@everyone
If you have no screenshots, include all the data that you can think of - including when and where you bought it. You can say - 1st week of March or something like that.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:32 pm
bkit gnyan LUG ang lag nmn
nahack nio na kme ang lag pa amp nmn kyo ah
shut down nio n lng PRO amp
wla dn nmn kyo gngwa gwa puro pero utak nio
ano yan mgdudupe pa kyo
tpos mawiwipe n nmn
nde nio ayusin en btyin mga ngdudupe
or bka pti kyo ksbwat s mga kakaguhan n yan mga palusot nio
ngmamalinis pa amp
makarma sna mga pakana ng mga to
nde sna kyo mka2log
ptyin sna kyo ng concnxa
nde nmn kc kyo gumagastos
pti nde boss card winipe nio
mga gagu
June 21st, 2007 at 9:36 pm
sir wauks paano ba mag submit ng report dito? bigay ko list ng sure duper sa tyr server.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:36 pm
ang masasabi ko lang ok lang ang nangyari. wipe na lahat dupes. pero masyadong mabigat ang nangyari. sana kayo mga taga LUG magfocus na kung papano maprevent ang ganitong pangyayari kasi para kayong nag spray ng pesticide na pati inde peste nadamay. sabi nga po “An ounce of PREVENTION is better than a pound of CURE”. nawa ito muna maging motto nyo sa ngayon. unsolicited advice lang po.
good luck! and More Power!
June 21st, 2007 at 9:37 pm
“Secondly, one of the most pressing questions is how do we stop the dupe? We deleted the items but they can easily dupe again. Well the answer is actually simple - we will run the anti-delete script everyday and maybe even 2x a day if there is a pressing need to do so. This is our safeguard while we are waiting for the final fix from Gravity”
hmmmm you will run antidupe programs twice a day… wehy not just prevent them from duping? ganon ba kapanget version ng ragnarok online. ang laking butas iniwan duplication of items…
e pano pag nagduplicate ang duper ng 1M pcs ng gold hala magkano na yun! e nabenta na sa npc wala na yayaman pa cya ulit,,,, sana magawaan ng paraan…. di permanent solution yan…
kakatakot tuloy bumili….
June 21st, 2007 at 9:37 pm
kung may schedule ang pag run nito sana i announce para alam kung kelan pwede bumili. kunwari every 5 pm i run ito. so safe bumili after 5pm.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:38 pm
OMG! nagyoin ko lang napansin!!!! bakit kita ip namain dito dapat hidden yan ha,,,,! ??
June 21st, 2007 at 9:38 pm
Wauks, you did the RIGHT thing and you have my full support. For those without screenshots, don’t worry, I already instructed the pRO team to come up with a detailed process which will include how long (approximately) it will take to compensate and the parameters there too.
I’ve already explained this to some of my readers
June 21st, 2007 at 9:39 pm
Sana maayos na yung neuralizer bug. >.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:42 pm
pno kme bbli items kung gnyan dn bulok sistema ng LUG
@ Wauks
pa suggest plsssssssssssssssssssssss
ung nde n cla mkpagdupe
wipe kyo ng wipe ng dupe
eh meron nmn nkakapagdupe
meron pa din biktima
sna maisip nio yan
June 21st, 2007 at 9:45 pm
nice nice. :) after all the chaos, some cleaning up would have to be done. return non-duped items and compensate with a mod exp. :)
June 21st, 2007 at 9:48 pm
@sir Wauks
PLS ANSWER, bkt po ganun? ung GTB ko Nov06 ko pa na-avail tapos nawala parin. swt!
June 21st, 2007 at 9:48 pm
sa mga nagcocomment pls refrain from using bad words, mga sibilisado tayong tao dito. tsaka napag hahalata kayo eh, masyado kayong AFFECTED! (not trying to imply anything pero kung yun ang nasa isip nyo yun na yun.)
June 21st, 2007 at 9:49 pm
I agree with everyone that it’s better to have a preventive measure but the problem is that falls in the hands of the developer. We’re doing our best to follow them up on it. In the meanwhile, this is really the best course of action that we can take.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:50 pm
@JOHN
The dupe bug existed way before November 2006. I suggest you guys file tickets instead of just complaining here. File tickets first then complain, hehehe.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:53 pm
All I can say is… I saw all of this coming almost a month ago when I first learned about the 3 options.
But anyway, I hope the dupe issue can finally be resolved once and for all.
Good luck!
June 21st, 2007 at 9:55 pm
@nobutada
Wow, that’s quite another wall of text! Even longer than the last one @_@;
June 21st, 2007 at 9:57 pm
It’s too unfair! I hope that you guys understand us regarding this issue. We had spent a lot of money and our time at the same time in playing ragnarok for so many years.
June 21st, 2007 at 9:58 pm
grabe na to halos lahat ng players nawalan ng gamit… mas maganda pa ata kung ulit na lang wipe out all servers pati character para mas maganda amfsssss….
June 21st, 2007 at 9:59 pm
My best suggestion talaga to everyone who was affected is that you guys FILE TICKETS. Complaining here will not do anything. If you want to get stuff back and it was a legal trade, then please file tickets.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:01 pm
@ kuya wauks ,
its ok nalang. haha. wala naman magagawa pero grabeh. I want to buy almost everything in ro pero di ko naisip kung duple b un or hndi. D ko tlga naisip ung bagay na yun.. T_T
June 21st, 2007 at 10:06 pm
@Sir Wauks,
medyo nalito lang po me don sa comment nyo na nasa hands ng developer ang pag gawa ng program para ma prevent ganito pangyayari. bakit dupe script ang bilis nila nagawa? dba po dapat mas nagawa nila ng maaga ang validation na yan dun palang sa beginning ng program nila? saka po malaking industry ang online gaming, dba po dapat me programmers kayo naka standby para rectify yan mga ganyan klase error? nagtatanong lang po, dpo insulto.
June 21st, 2007 at 10:06 pm
nice waukeen, now you guys can take care of the bot situation at thor..?
June 21st, 2007 at 10:14 pm
@ Sir Wauks,
Hmm, already file the ticket. But my problem is that I already done have the screenie of the deal bec its too long time ago. pero I have the oldest screenie I have the item and its present screenie. ok lang po ba un? PLS ANSWER po!
June 21st, 2007 at 10:15 pm
@wauks
need pa po ba ng screen sh0ots? malamang meron pa ako nun kasi matagal ko na nabili mga nawala sakin amfffsss
June 21st, 2007 at 10:17 pm
@wauks and gm’s of pro
ns hehe delete all dupes.. mababalik naman pla pag legit ung trade e..
@sa mga dupers na nag papanggap dyan
mahiya nga kayo, puro kayo reklamo d2 e mga duper kayo…. kunwari pa kayo na nawalan ng gamit kuno at nag papakalat pa kayo ng chismis na pati legal items nawala.. tsk tsk… mahiya naman sa balat nio…
June 21st, 2007 at 10:18 pm
@Wauks
I just like to confirm this…Kasi based on what you said: “Enjoy the first dupe-free siege tonight - it’s definitely been a while. @_@” it appears as though there are no more dupes in all of the servers upon posting of this blog entry?
You know my worries with the expensive items that I bought and so far nothing has been missing from my account. Does this mean all of my items are already assured 100% authentic?
Freya server here. Thanks Wauks!
June 21st, 2007 at 10:27 pm
@Gm Tristan
I hope yung sa CS ay may malawak na pang unawa. minsan na kaming nabigo sa issue ng split accounts pero nag laro pa din kami, sna d kami mabigo
SALAMAT
June 21st, 2007 at 10:33 pm
honga..di naman totoo na nawala mga legit items..wala pa naman nawawala sakin at sa mga kashop/kaguild ko..
June 21st, 2007 at 10:33 pm
file tickets? tapos pg kulang or kung d kau cgrado sa ngre2port pa2pntahin nyo lng jan sa office nyo.. waw ayus nmn may paOPTION OPTION pa kaung nala2man, tapos ga2win nyo dn nmn ung burado lahat at BIGLAAN n nmn ayusin nyo!! kung de2lete nyo RO sabihin nyo ng maaga pra wala ng magload!! RO2 pro2mote nyo na puro quest lng ang gngwa.. ngba2yad kami d nmn libre ung laro nmin eh mgiipon ka ng zenny tapos BU2RAHIN dn ung binili mo…. at D BA SCAM ang tawag jan LU?? SCAM=Mandurugas.. hayy grabe.. pra kau na dn ung NAGDUPE.. anu 2 NO RETURN, NO EXCHANGE kpag walang screenshot? kahit balik nyo lng zenny ayus na eh. kung dati nyo pa gnawa 2 ed wala ng problema.. mabuti pa PRIVATE SERVER eh wala ng LOAD WALA pang LAG MATATALINO PA MGA GM !! d ko alam kung ngiicip ba tlga kau eh.. /pif
June 21st, 2007 at 10:36 pm
@wauks
anak ng tipaklong..bute wla n dupe ns wauks…
kea lng nwala po ice pik nmng bnili wauks..meron kmi screenshot n bnili nmn un kea lng wauks pnasa ko sa isa kong acount..pno ung wauks anong ilalagay nmng username sa pagfyfyl ng ticket..ung acount ng pnagbilhan nmn ng ice pik or ung acount ng pnaglagyan nmn ng ice pik..elp wauks nid sugestion..^^ hop dat u wil help me to resolve my prob wauks..thx hav my clas tom..dudnayt
June 21st, 2007 at 10:40 pm
I think its too early to say na onti ang naapektuhan kasi hanggang friday 4pm pa ang deleting…Kahapon, buhay pa SGH ko, tapus kanina lang nawala.
Try ko pa din mag file ng complain, kaso yung account na bumili ng sgh ko ay iba sa acct na may screen shot ako at iba din sa account na huling may hawak nung item. Anong username ang ilalagay ko sa ticket?
June 21st, 2007 at 10:48 pm
Yun Combat Knife ko di pa merge ko nabili yun nawala, panu yan eh wala naman aku screen shot ASA na lang ba kayo sa screen shot?
June 21st, 2007 at 10:49 pm
@Wauk
ask ko lang pag de ba nawala items mo tonight safe na ba sya tomorow? para mahimbing na tulog ng mga players like me. ^^
June 21st, 2007 at 10:51 pm
Nice move LUG.
Yan kase mga asa sa boss cards pati asa sa mga illegal na lakas. LOL.
anu na kayo ngayon at wala nang illegal na mga gamit nio? Iyak n lang? hihiihihihihi ^_^
June 21st, 2007 at 10:51 pm
pnu ung item n pinahirm ko sa utol ko tpos sa kanya nwla? loki days p ung item kaya wla screeny my chance p b mksli ako sa compensation?
June 21st, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Paano kapag yung dupe item (di mo alam na dupe) na nabili mo ay nawala pero nalipat mo na sa iba mong account bago nawala, anong username at character name ang ibibigay mo?.. Yung sa account kung saan mo nabili? Or dun kung saan nawala?.. Kung dun kung saan nawala, paano kapag wala kang screenshot ng item na yun dun sa nilipatan mong account?.. Hehe, medyo magulo pero I know maiintindihan mo yan..
June 21st, 2007 at 10:57 pm
Good Day.
Bringing back the integrity of the game is a move worthy of honor. You have my respect for that.
If I may be bold enough to ask, what options do we have if in the event we don’t have in-game screenies, would forum screenshots (e.g. Buying and Selling threads, PMs, and the like) suffice?
June 21st, 2007 at 10:59 pm
nawala ang CK ko… CK na nakuha sa monster race medals… Impossible namang duped yon since ako mismo ang kumuha sa npc ng ck in exchange for medals.
WTF man?
June 21st, 2007 at 10:59 pm
@WAUKS
Bumalik na naman lag ng Freya! Ano ba ginagawa ninyo bakit ganyan?!?
Disconnected na naman parati. Puro time gaps!
June 21st, 2007 at 10:59 pm
in the words of Yagami Light
“Just as Planned…”
June 21st, 2007 at 11:00 pm
and no, i don’t have screenshot because i didn’t deem it important to take a screenshot during that time.
I’m not ranting for a compensation. I’m ranting because I’m annoyed.
June 21st, 2007 at 11:00 pm
di nyo napansin? wala na gaano lag? d kaya dahil sa dupe ung grabeng lag? @_@
wag na kayo masyado iyakin, gamit lang yan sa laro, kasalanan nyo na yan kung nag php kayo, gamit lang yan amf. pde naman bmli ng mga bago, kung mag quit kayo dahil nawalan kayo magagandang gamit, parang sinabi nyo na UMAASA lang kayo sa GAMIT NYO
June 21st, 2007 at 11:16 pm
Balik LAG na NAMAN!
Freya Server… Balik na nman. Walang kwenta na naman ang 3X modifier. PI na yan! Pano masisiyahan players nyo nyan!
Magbibigay kayo ng exp mod pero parati naman disconnected! Anong kwenta ng mod exp kung di kami makapagpalevel dahil sa disconnections?!?
June 21st, 2007 at 11:18 pm
pansin ko din na nawala ung lag and daming lumambot nyahahahaha
June 21st, 2007 at 11:40 pm
Not fair, what ever happened to us Thorians? Lost? Forgotten?
ANY UPDATE ON OUR RAGDEF?
just to have some sort of progress for yours and ours, so called NO-BOT-SERVER ¬_¬
June 21st, 2007 at 11:50 pm
I dunno how to say this but I pity you Waukeen and sad current state of pRO. If you really wanted to restore game and balance in this game, how can you bring justice to the too many innocent and powerless victims of this mess?
So here is your chance, to restore the trust of all pRO players, both past and present. Why don’t you request the resignation of all GMs and Ragnaboard moderators to start with? Maybe this is what new beginnings you’ve been talking about.
Walang personalan, trabaho lang!
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:07 am
- Good Job LUG!!! Thank’s sa Anti-Dupe Script!!! More Power!!! God Bless!!! bwahahahah!!!
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:09 am
nyahaha, ung ibang nag rereklamo na dupers, nagrereklamo dito kasi nde na sila makakapag angas sa pvp at siege kasi mga asa lang sila sa mga item na dinupe nila, nyahahaha!! tapos mananakot na nde na sila maglalaro ng RO para matakot ung mga tga LUG na nagpapatakot naman sa mga ungas na to. nyahahaha!! pity naman kayo. Laki ng problema nyo e di mag bot kayo, dun lang naman kayo na-asa sa mga kayaman nyo eh, mwhahahaha!! kakaawa naman kayo.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:15 am
Balik 350m+ each ang GR nyan kung totoo man yang wipe-out. Sana i-delete na rin lahat ng gtb na galing sa novice.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:17 am
Hay damaged has been done.. at least sana maging maganda yung customer service ng LUG to compensate those people who were affected. Sana po kung gaano kabilis yung pagimplement nyo ng wipe out ganun kabilis yung pag action nyo sa lahat ng naapektuhan..Goodluck LUG!
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:19 am
- ok lng nmn ung anti-dupe script! wlng personal ako kht marami nwla pwde na un! cguro kung ako nsa pwesto nyo wla ako mggwa kung hnd maghintay sa action galing gravity! gravity my kasalanan hindi LUG kht anong galing ng employee ng LUG e kung hnd kya!? kc nga sa Gravity pren mangagagling solution ! ganyan tlga sakit ng online wla nmn perfect e! cno ba!? isa lng nmn! pero wish ko lng sna before every maintenance mag issue ng kickall bago e close ang server!
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:28 am
dapat tuloy pa rin ang pag hunt sa mga dupers habang wala pa yung permanent fix from gravity. i encourage all players to e-mail or pm to sir wauks names of suspected dupers. sana ingat din ang LUG sa mga bogus claims. THANK YOU SIR WAUKS YOU HAVE MY FULL SUPPORT FOR THe DELETE ALL DUPES POLICY.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:35 am
wapak! got 2 of my items lost and got no screenshot of any trades.. the only thing I can justify it is a range of time..O_o I hope it can still be retieved.. it was better-off that it got lost in my hands rather that I traded it with somone else and made me a suspect..^^
@ sir wauks
ask ko lang po kung ano talaga yung permanent resolution? sabi niyo po kasi temporary lang.. would it still be deletion of dupes or will there be scripts to block the duping process?
nahihirapan lang po kasi kami kumilos.. hope you could enlighten us.. di na po kasi namin alam kung makakabili na ba ulit kami.. yung mga naiwan nalang sa amin na di dinelete ng anti0dupe script ang natira..
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:40 am
kuya wauks, sana po ayusin nyo na rin ang dupe bug… mtatakot kasi kami nyan bumili ng items kasi bka dupe lang… tpos afterwards, mawipe out… mejo hassle din naman magfile ng ticket sa cust care considering the fact na student po ako and mhirap mkahanap ng free time para mkafile ng ticket. and knowing that it will take time para macompensate, may tendency na mahahayaan nalang namin.. sana po masolusyonan ang dupe bug agad… or, d nyo po ba marun frequently ang dupe script para kahit kakabago lang nakapagdupe ang tao, mwawala agad ung duped item at yng item na pinanngalingan ng dupe…
anyweiz, im happy that somehow nasosolusyonan na ang prob… i want to go back to the old days when RO was still just a place where people can forget their problems and anxiety… sana mbalik un… salamat po and godspeed.
June 22nd, 2007 at 12:48 am
baka taon abutin compensation nyan haaayz sigurado mabagal sa sobrang dami nabura at isa isa nila imbestigahan yan
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:02 am
siguro alam nila ang kasabihan “justice delayed is justice denied”…swerte un mauna dyan, paanu naman un mahuli swt
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:06 am
we guys are doomed!
1, we at freya are suppose to enjoy the x3 exp that was promised after several roll backs last week… but wait.. we can hardly login! the lag is HORRIBLE.. you play and after a while… you already are in your save point. GOODLUCK naman! deads ka na pala before you know it…
2. the dupe issue.. i am quiet skeptical now of buying some equipment for my new character. who knows… its a dupe! geee..
geee…. please…
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:12 am
workingdude says,6-21-2007 at 21:38:13 from 203.177.225.212 OMG! nagyoin ko lang napansin!!!! bakit kita ip namain dito dapat hidden yan ha,,,,! ??
So no one would abuse this blog.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:21 am
blanc says,6-22-2007 at 00:35:26 from 58.71.30.162 wapak! got 2 of my items lost and got no screenshot of any trades.. the only thing I can justify it is a range of time..O_o I hope it can still be retieved.. it was better-off that it got lost in my hands rather that I traded it with somone else and made me a suspect..^^
Retrieve it’s impossible cause it’s duped.
Compensation, possible if you have legitimate evidence then file a ticket to CS
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:28 am
bane says,6-21-2007 at 21:00:38 from 210.213.124.233 pati yun mga lumang item na delete din kung ganun nung una pa pla may dupe na hindi kami nag eenjoy sa dupe free kami nag susuffer ngayun dahil nawawala gamit namin
Duped Bug started way back October of 2006
up until now and so on. ( Cause it’s still
possible to create duped items since the
anti duped script, and it’s function are
to delete duped items not stopping the
dupers from creating duped items and resell
them to some npc). Probably I hope they
added to their anti duped script a system that would detect the IP of the account that would create duped items then banned the account and the IP. Otherwise, they would have other ways
of abusing the duped bug.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:42 am
Secondly, one of the most pressing questions is how do we stop the dupe? We deleted the items but they can easily dupe again. Well the answer is actually simple - we will run the anti-delete script everyday and maybe even 2x a day if there is a pressing need to do so. This is our safeguard while we are waiting for the final fix from Gravity. If you’re going to have a major transaction, I strongly suggest you always keep screenshots just so you have evidence that the trade actually happened. I’m pretty sure the other countries with Ragnarok can now breathe a sigh of relief because we’ve proven that the script exists. If this problem reaches iRO, jRO, or some other country, they can easily get the script and run it through their DB daily.
Sad to say there still other possibilities for
them to abuse duping best thing to do is to
create a system that would track down the dupers IP and the acccount that would create new duped items from June 22,2007 4.01pm onwards and have it banned.
Lastly, I’d like to thank the guild leaders and players who have been stepping up lately giving Level-up names of duper suspects. The information that you guys give is valuable because it saves us time and it gives us a trail that we can just follow. Sometimes the characters that you give aren’t dupers, but when we check their IP, we find like 10 novice accounts filled with dupes.
Nice job, but some dupers use other means of
creating dupes and changing their IP at the same
time. Still the best solution is to create a
script that would automatically track down
accounts that would abuse dupes starting
June 22, 2007 4.01pm onwards and have the IP
and the account banned. So players won’t be
disturb from their in-game plays.
Now that this is out of the way, I’ll have the team focus more on the other problems of RO - this includes the character transfer, rebirth bug, neuralizer bug, game time transfer, and of course - the Ragnarok Philippine Championships. I’ll give more updates on those issues as the days go by.
Since the duped issue is finally over.
Please make a statement whether you guys have
plan making bot legal in Thor or not since
the use of bot in Thor is getting out of hand
and the script for anti-bot is still out of
reach for the sake of the decent players there
in Thor. The Ragna Police though they do their
job is not that much help at all. I hope it’s
not a temporary solution if ever.
From my point of view, players use other accounts for bot to gain zeny in Thor. And
some other players use their main account for
bot too ( easy leveling until 80 or 90+ ) then
they would stop botting and join other players
in fair leveling ground ( to avoid to be called
a bot and such.
So I’d like to know the future of Thor regarding
bot cause there’s no improvement at all for the
last 6 months.
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:43 am
Please check this character…
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb47/chie2305/screenFREYA006.jpg
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:52 am
Eto pa isa, pa background check lang po…
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb47/chie2305/screenFREYA007.jpg
June 22nd, 2007 at 1:58 am
“The Ends Justify the Means”
Google the meaning and maybe youll understand
June 22nd, 2007 at 2:17 am
nice work… i lost a pole axe, but that just proves you guys are doing your job. let’s just enjoy the game, i’m pretty sure the present LUG staff are doing their job unlike those before.
@co-players, just remember, don’t take it all too much seriously. it’s just a game for crying out loud. lol.. go get yourself a good job and a good career. this is supposed to be just for fun and entertainment. let’s keep it that way, don’t make this your life.
June 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 am
File a ticket, file a ticket, file a ticket…. ang dali sabihin noh!! palibhasa hindi kayo un na hihirapan magFILE NG TICKET!! cgurado ba kayo dupe binubura nyan or lahat ng 100m+ worth ang dnedelete!! 2005 mga gamit ng pinsan ko nawala!!!
ISA PA!! anu un cnasabi mo wauks na bogus un ticket kc duped tlga un item?? eh hindi nga namin alam na duplicates un eh…. mabuti kng may palatandaan pa dati un dupe sa hindi!!!
E2 PA!!! running of that script twice a day?? ur joking right!! here’s my idea
bat nde nyo na lng run yan script na yan everytime mag-eemergency at scheduled maintenance kyo pra sure na kung may ma duplicate eh burado agad!!! hindi un hihintayin nyo pa maibenta!!! COMMON SENSE!!!
June 22nd, 2007 at 4:47 am
alam nmn ntin n existing un mga dupes dati pa.. meron b s inyo d nakakaalam??? so the fact n bumili ka alam mo n un risk n bka nga duped un binili mo, pro binili mo prin.. so in d end hndi rison un kesyo “malay ko b kun duped un” d best thing tlga dpt n ginawa mo is umiwas n bumili till maresolved nga.. pro mnsan d tlga maiwasan bumili, but then un nga kasama n un risk dun.. kaya plz lng, wag nyo nmn sasabhin n d nyo alam..
madaling ma abuse yan compensation n yan about s duped, sana nga wala n yan.. mdami tlga mgagalit pro think its better nmn n mwala lahat ng duped kysa s pnkamamahal mong +10immune.. right now im still waiting kun meron mwwla s mga equips ko, kun may mwla ok lng sakin.. basta fair and balanced na d ba.. sacrifice muna 4 d benefit of all..
June 22nd, 2007 at 5:30 am
basically, it wasn’t safe after all after what i read how about stopping dupers to dupes, wasn’t a guarantee. you mean we’re still have to print the trading for every transaction. why not make a strong solution for the said problem.
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:17 am
Hay ngayon wala na dup puro pa rin kayo reklamo ano ba yan matuwa na kayo at nawala mga dup!! may mga announcements naman na wag muna bibili ng gamit pero cge tingin nyo nakalusot? well kung ako ang lvl up tapos gantong reklamo lang makukuha ko d ko na talaga ibabalik gamit nyo.. nung ang daming dup reklamo nun nagawan ng paraan reklamo why dont you just file a ticket or call them and just wait.. e kung libo ung reklamo tingin nyo mareresolve in just one day? mag isip naman kayo! wala talagang mangyayari sa inyo kung puro iyak ginagawa nyo.. nice job wauks mawalan man ako ng item at least balance na ang game. /no1
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:29 am
Sir wauks pwede b d2 mglagy ng screenshot s inyong site …I2 rela dupers ng TYR server name nya Gohei..sir wauks kailn nmin ulit makukuha ung 180m kht sbhn ntin maliit n zenny lng to ung mga nghirap ipunin namin 2 sir sana maging fair kayo sayng nmaman pinghirapn nmin e
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:36 am
@wauks
#ML9L6
June 22nd, 2007 at 6:56 am
YAHOOOO.. wala na DUP.. weeeeeeeeee…
ano ba yan.. hangang ngyon meron pa din nag rereklamo.. d ba kau napapagod? 1 prob solve..
1 na lng.. “LAG”
la na ako paki sa mga items na nwala sken.. bsta make it sure lng wala na tlga DUP.. screenshot na lng ako if buy ako items..
hayyys.. naka hinga din ng maayos.. sa wakas
once na lag ang isang map or masira it means DUPE strike’s Back.. wahh..
salamat po sir wauk..
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:13 am
I think some Tyr players experienced unfair wipeout. A guildmate of mine accidentally duped all his equips when luina maps crashed while inside the agit. We were able to reconnect to our spawn point since we were inside the agit when it crashed. When the siege ended, he placed all his equips inside the kafra. After that, a rollback occured, his equips in kafra were intact but he also has a set equip in is character. We broke everything that was copied except for those items that are unupgradable(accesories, poohat, blinker). Now tell me, is it wrong to place your equips inside the kafra after siege? Of course there wouldn’t be screenshots to prove this case, but you can check your database, Tyr’s Luina did experience breakdowns during siege. If it had been the armors, I would have accepted it, but similar to a poster here, his CK was also wiped. I was the one who made that CK, and it’s not a dupe if you do know this name in RB.
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:16 am
Kelan nga pala maayos ang mail system? Meron pa rin akong FM na nak stuck doon :(
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:17 am
@Memories of Ragnarok
You are spamming/abusing in this blog. Please stop answering other peoples question, this is not your blog.
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:19 am
@sirwauks
#ML9L6 ei wauks..pde po pachek ung player n gohei name..tga odin sha dti naun tyr..s knya ko bnili ung ice pik..kakilala nmn sha sa laro kea lng nung nagburahan n ng dupe nwala sha d ko n mkita dti kc pakalat kalat lng sha sa pron eh…aun pachek lng po sha kc bka duper un..d b po wla nmn msama magsumbong ng suspected duper kc ung bnili ko s knyang ice pik nwala eh..cgeh po thx pachek n lng po ha at pki folow up ung ticket no. ko thx..gud morning^^
June 22nd, 2007 at 7:26 am
Sir Wauks,
Could there be a chance na mabalik ung item ko? I was expecting kasi na ung IP ung mawawala sakin… i was hocked na ung +9CB ang nawala which i bought some 2 years ago. sad to say i have no screenshot of my +9CB.
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:12 am
Im Sorry sa mga tinamaan, ako nga din e kinabahan na, tingin agad sa inventory kung andun pa GR ko, kahit sa kakilala ko sya binili syempre di rin nya alam kung saan din nang galing yun, katuland n lang nung nawalan ng +9CB 2years na nasa kanya iyon, ibig sabihin mahigit 2 years na pala nag kakaroon ng dupe items ngayon lang nabigyan pansin.
we should get some compensation sana.
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:13 am
Repeat ko lang.. Di pa nasagot eh..
Paano kapag yung dupe item (di mo alam na dupe) na nabili mo ay nawala pero nalipat mo na sa iba mong account bago nawala, anong username at character name ang ibibigay mo?.. Yung sa account kung saan mo nabili? Or dun kung saan nawala?.. Kung dun kung saan nawala, paano kapag wala kang screenshot ng item na yun dun sa nilipatan mong account?.. Hehe, medyo magulo pero I know maiintindihan mo yan..
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:26 am
The antidupe script should run not only twice, there must be a fix and random schedule for running the script.
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:28 am
Nadamay sa wipeout pati yung hindi dupe. One of my friends complained that he lost his +7 Unfro Padded Armor (susme! Meron b duper magttyaga mgdupe nyan!?). Another friend lost his +9 set which he bought almost 3 years ago (3 yrs ago pa—d p uso dupe at certainly burado na SS sa deal na nakuha nya). Maganda na sana wipeout if it targetted only the duped items.
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:30 am
@wauks
I think filing a ticket will be just taken for granted and I believed the best solution for you to do in identifying players who was been victim by the dupe items is by comparing your previous database before you run the script to the latest database. From that you can start investigating the missing items in your latest database. I suggesting this to give some consideration for those who sacrifice their hard owned pesos and we are not just talking hundreds but thousands and as a professional you knew how hard to earned money. Just imagine your in their situation allocating 50% of your monthly income to give satisfaction to your self interest.
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:30 am
still the market is not safe..
edi wag kayo bumili.. lol..
wag kayo bumili until the dupers can’t dupe anymore..
lol.. buy a dupe item.. have a screenshot and its legal.. lol
so duper can buy his own dupe item have a screenshot.. ola! a legit item..
what about that chief?
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:34 am
@Wauks
Dupe din ba yung prize na binibigay nyo sa BTA?kasi yung sa barkada ko na walan ng gamit vesper core 02 at 01.So ibigsabihin dupe yun?na mimigay na din pala kayo ng prize na dupe?Hindi sya nag screen shoot kasi nga sa inyo galing yun eh kaya tiwala kami na hindi dupe tapos mawawala!Buhay nga naman!Parang Life!
June 22nd, 2007 at 8:39 am
question.. how bout yung mga sobrang tagal na tapos nawala..lets say mga last yr or last 2 years pa?
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:04 am
lenpatrick oversoul says,6-22-2007 at 04:47:55 from 81.85.244.91 alam nmn ntin n existing un mga dupes dati pa.. meron b s inyo d nakakaalam??? so the fact n bumili ka alam mo n un risk n bka nga duped un binili mo, pro binili mo prin.. so in d end hndi rison un kesyo “malay ko b kun duped un†d best thing tlga dpt n ginawa mo is umiwas n bumili till maresolved nga.. pro mnsan d tlga maiwasan bumili, but then un nga kasama n un risk dun.. kaya plz lng, wag nyo nmn sasabhin n d nyo alam..
madaling ma abuse yan compensation n yan about s duped, sana nga wala n yan.. mdami tlga mgagalit pro think its better nmn n mwala lahat ng duped kysa s pnkamamahal mong +10immune.. right now im still waiting kun meron mwwla s mga equips ko, kun may mwla ok lng sakin.. basta fair and balanced na d ba.. sacrifice muna 4 d benefit of all..
>did we say that we know duped items have been resolved? what if kababalik lang nung player at wala siyang idea bout dupes? ok nga na balanced.. kaso masasabi mo pa po kaya yan pag simot gamit mo even orig? kahit papaano kahit loyal ka, mabigat pa rin sa loob..
sa case ko, wala akong screenshots of trades, I only stated times before the item got lost and what time I logged in (the item got lost).. I do hope there would be a compensation but if ever, ok lang.. ganun lang talaga, ang prob lang, kelan ka makakasigurado na yung ipapalit mo ok na?
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:11 am
@ lenpatrick
tol lam mo ba cnasabi mo?? un items na 2005 pa binili nawala din!!!! so ibig mo sabhin hindi dapat kme bumili ng gamit mula 2005??? pambihira ka…..
madali magsalita kpag minimal or wla effect syo…. isipin mo kapwa mo~
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:13 am
TAENA YAN ANG TATALINO NYO PUMAYAG PA KASI KAYO SA OPTION 1 : DELETE ALL DUPES.. STUPID PEOPLE.. SERVES EM RIGHT BWAHAHAHA CHAOS SABAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:14 am
@lenpatrick oversoul
^_^ Weeee musta Fapz kelan tau magHunt nakaGC nako ulit kay Stormy Knight. At nakagawa nako ng Orc Hero Helm dugo at pawis para 100pcs Heroic Emblem. Cadz[0] ^_^
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:18 am
@honkytonky
Sa pagkakaalam ko pafi Beta days palang me dupe na.
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:27 am
sana before the delete conpile nyo yungmga nadeletean ng item para no nid to file a ticket and trace the deal history. Sorry pero wala akong screenshot ng deal ko sa GTB ko at +9Superior Shuz kasi matagal na po yun wala pang ganitong topic and isa pa GM at CS mismo nagsabi sa akin dati n wala n talagang dupe that time sana maaksyunan ang mga ticket ko:
27AKC
5QF9L
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:35 am
wauks sira RB paki check po
thanx
June 22nd, 2007 at 9:58 am
@wauks
its better to rollback the day before you run the script if its not guaranteed all will be compensated accordingly.
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:02 am
I still think it was the best solution. I hope Level-Up! addresses future similar issues in a similar manner.
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:09 am
Think of yourselves lucky. At least hindi na rollback lahat ng gamit. Pa-isa isa lang nawawalan sa inyo, kaysa sa mga Thor, buong equips nawala dahil sa rollback dati.
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:10 am
@ haters
FU all~ fair play starts now.. :3
June 22nd, 2007 at 10:31 am
I had fun with siege last night because all those “overpowered” guilds with duped items equipped up to the gills got a real and painful blow. You had it coming.
Change doesn’t happen overnight. LUG is doing its best to resolve the issue but it cannot solve problems in just one go.
I lost a GR+GTB combo last night. Masakit sa loob but heck, sa tagal na ng issue ng duped items sa RO, expected ko na may 60% chance na mawawala gamit ko. Nawala nga. Ang consuelo ko na lang sa sarili ko, mas masaklap ang experience ng mga dupers and lantarang gumagamit ng